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Specimen-17 Dark god (All Powerful)

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So since we have/had a few players on here, has anyone played with the new 5th edition rules yet? I'm starting to get back into the fold again (haven't had the opportunity the past couple of years), just ordered 2 of the new box sets, a Strike Force and a Linebreaker Squadron. Planning to get one of those Land Raider Redeemers on Saturday too, although only for the new flamers.
I think I'm going to need some new cases..
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Protoform X Sub-group Leader


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This is actually why I stopped playing. I don't know the edition numbers, but the change I recall is the edition where the 40K logo went from being all goldy to being green and black stone. It just frustrated me that an army that I'd spent a lot of time and money on was now worthless under the new rules i.e. I'd have to give Games Workshop even more of my money. My friends and I kept playing our own games with the previous rule system but we even stopped that after a while. Now I just have masses of old High Elf and Chaos Space Marine miniatures taking up space. It's a shame as I really like the actual miniatures, but I can't display them anywhere.
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I was never really into Warhammer myself, but growing up in my teens, I had a mate who collected entire armies of Space Marines and Orcs. I used to wonder how he could so meticulously paint things that were so small. I did briefly think about dabbling in Warhammer at one point, though I never did.
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Specimen-17 Dark god (All Powerful)

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Protoform X wrote:
| This is actually why I stopped playing. I don't know the edition numbers, but the change I recall is the edition where the 40K logo went from being all goldy to being green and black stone. It just frustrated me that an army that I'd spent a lot of time and money on was now worthless under the new rules i.e. I'd have to give Games Workshop even more of my money. My friends and I kept playing our own games with the previous rule system but we even stopped that after a while. Now I just have masses of old High Elf and Chaos Space Marine miniatures taking up space. It's a shame as I really like the actual miniatures, but I can't display them anywhere.
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That'd be the 2nd to 3rd update. That was a big change, but it didn't make current armies "worthless", just changed a lot of the mechanics. 4th and 5th have essentially been updates to 3rd edition, mostly just points balances and rule changes.
I get more enjoyment out of building/painting anyway. I haven't played a great deal since 2nd edition since most gamers are, to be fair, c**ts. There's only so much anal-retentive rule arguing and "Why are you using OLD terminators when the new ones are so much better?" (and would only cost £90 to upgrade..) I can tolerate before calling it a day.
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Yes, I recall that. My school/college had an after school club for tabletop gaming. It was only an hour and a half so we all brought 500-point armies so we could have fairly quick battles. But a lot of people brought their entire armies, set them all up, then got bored and starting arguing about who would win in a fistfight between, say, two of the Phoenix Lords. I find some of the older miniatures better too. I have the older Teclis miniature and I find it has much more charm than the newer one.
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5th edition boxset you got a small fortunes worth of models quite cheap, i still use some of the older models. I never buy direct from gw - ebay shops underprice them hehehe. Playing the game is another matter altogether, some just want to win at all costs, others gripe over a millimeter difference - you cancharge/cant charge. Whatever happened to gamesmanship and just enjoy the game. - Not that id lose on purpose 
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jazzxeno wrote:
5th edition boxset you got a small fortunes worth of models quite cheap, i still use some of the older models. I never buy direct from gw - ebay shops underprice them hehehe. Playing the game is another matter altogether, some just want to win at all costs, others gripe over a millimeter difference - you cancharge/cant charge. Whatever happened to gamesmanship and just enjoy the game. - Not that id lose on purpose  |
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i only find that the idea of buying the discounted stuff on ebay if im going to buy a lot in bulk as once you take postage into account the idea of savng 1.50 ona box of space marines i might as well buy it from workshop, i wont buy second hand models on ebay if theyve painted (usually terribly too boot) but i will buy second stuff on sprues and stuck together.
I still paint a lot but i dont play as much as i used to as we never seem to get round to it, Im still working between Imperial fists (of whic i want about 6 new land speeder now that theyve finally fixed that sodding broken mould and the new land raider) and my nightlords
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I havent read into the new edition yet, but Justin in the Romford store has been talking to me on the phone about the Marine Codex....im very tempted, though i dont have the time or money to start GW again.
Maybe after i have finished my project.
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silverbolt wrote:
jazzxeno wrote:
5th edition boxset you got a small fortunes worth of models quite cheap, i still use some of the older models. I never buy direct from gw - ebay shops underprice them hehehe. Playing the game is another matter altogether, some just want to win at all costs, others gripe over a millimeter difference - you cancharge/cant charge. Whatever happened to gamesmanship and just enjoy the game. - Not that id lose on purpose  |
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i only find that the idea of buying the discounted stuff on ebay if im going to buy a lot in bulk as once you take postage into account the idea of savng 1.50 ona box of space marines i might as well buy it from workshop, i wont buy second hand models on ebay if theyve painted (usually terribly too boot) but i will buy second stuff on sprues and stuck together.
I still paint a lot but i dont play as much as i used to as we never seem to get round to it, Im still working between Imperial fists (of whic i want about 6 new land speeder now that theyve finally fixed that sodding broken mould and the new land raider) and my nightlords
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Have picked up a few bargains off there - black reach set for £30 comes to mind (great spacemarines). 6!! landspeeders - be warned, a gust of wind (or space marine flatulence) and landspeeders go bye bye, although parking a vindicator in front of them helps keep em shiney. - oohh nightlords - do you paintem with the lightning effect all over the armour?
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jazzxeno wrote:
silverbolt wrote:
jazzxeno wrote:
5th edition boxset you got a small fortunes worth of models quite cheap, i still use some of the older models. I never buy direct from gw - ebay shops underprice them hehehe. Playing the game is another matter altogether, some just want to win at all costs, others gripe over a millimeter difference - you cancharge/cant charge. Whatever happened to gamesmanship and just enjoy the game. - Not that id lose on purpose  |
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i only find that the idea of buying the discounted stuff on ebay if im going to buy a lot in bulk as once you take postage into account the idea of savng 1.50 ona box of space marines i might as well buy it from workshop, i wont buy second hand models on ebay if theyve painted (usually terribly too boot) but i will buy second stuff on sprues and stuck together.
I still paint a lot but i dont play as much as i used to as we never seem to get round to it, Im still working between Imperial fists (of whic i want about 6 new land speeder now that theyve finally fixed that sodding broken mould and the new land raider) and my nightlords
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Have picked up a few bargains off there - black reach set for £30 comes to mind (great spacemarines). 6!! landspeeders - be warned, a gust of wind (or space marine flatulence) and landspeeders go bye bye, although parking a vindicator in front of them helps keep em shiney. - oohh nightlords - do you paintem with the lightning effect all over the armour? |
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yes and i use the plastic marines not the newer batfink heads.
Good job on black reach i paid 40 for mine in the store and then swopped the orks for more marines so or 40 quid i picked up £140 of marines - go me.
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lol wish i knew someone who would swap my orcs for more marines, theyve crammed loads in new set, just need 30 jump packers for some proper carnage. hehehe i remember the batfink heads, daft, alas i had black legion and nurgle, wouldnt mind the new blackheart and his crew. You just play marines?
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I've got my Art Of Warhammer 40k book listed on amazon for 190quid, which is nice. It's a lovely big book, and if any of you lovely folk want it, you can have it at the bargain price of 90quid. Ain't i lovely to yous all?
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jazzxeno wrote:
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nope got a guard army as well, and i was lethal with a mech tau army (then i sold it) and burnt many a heretic with my nuns with guns (and then sold them to)
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Been reading the new SM codex - and it yields the return of the Conversion Beamer!
..S10, AP1, Heavy 1, Blast. When fired at 40-72".
What. The. Hell.
That's like, the absolute definition of broken.
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Specimen-17 wrote:
Been reading the new SM codex - and it yields the return of the Conversion Beamer!
..S10, AP1, Heavy 1, Blast. When fired at 40-72".
What. The. Hell.
That's like, the absolute definition of broken.
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oohh me wants one (or ten) hehehe i still cant decide which chapter to paint the spacemarines up as, ultramarines are just to squeeky clean, white scars....well there white, anything decent for the salamanders chapter in the book? 5th edition neeedddsss space dwarfs (squats for vets)
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Salamanders have one special character, Ultra Marines get about 10. There's also Shrike from Raven Guard andImp. Fists' Cap Lysander.. that's all I can remember.
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Specimen-17 wrote:
Been reading the new SM codex - and it yields the return of the Conversion Beamer!
..S10, AP1, Heavy 1, Blast. When fired at 40-72".
What. The. Hell.
That's like, the absolute definition of broken.
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WHAT? thats nuts - so basically space marines now have a rail gun - and its probably man portable so you dont ahve to buy a tank or battlesuit to stick it on
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Only the Master of the Forge can have one (so one-per chapter).
Which in a way is no bad thing, as he's easier to take out than a Land Raider.
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Specimen-17 wrote:
Only the Master of the Forge can have one (so one-per chapter).
Which in a way is no bad thing, as he's easier to take out than a Land Raider.
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Thats so going to appear in powergamers armys (cheese). &nb sp; 1 Character for salalmanders, 10 for ultramarines hhmmm biased in anyway. Any suggestions on which chapter as im stumped.
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Space Sharks.
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