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Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:59am | IP Logged Quote Chemical
Hey,

I've fallen in love with transformers somewhat later in life than most (I'm 18 now) and want to buy the original 4 series of G1 and possibly collect the original 80 marvel comics.

I do however have a question, do the comics feature the same plots as the episodes of the cartoon?, for example if I watched the entire G1 episodes, then went to read the 80 marvel comics, would I essentially be reading the same thing I just watched?, or are they based on the same universe but with different indivual plots?


Thanks for any response.
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Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:30am | IP Logged Quote dannyannimus
they are quite separate. they share the same idea, and the same characteristics, but diverge rapidly. Also there are the Marvel UK, and US storylines, which again diverge. Everything is available to collect anyway. The DVDs of all 4 seasons, plus the movie, and the comics are available as 12 (14 including G2) US graphic novels and about 10 large graphic novels and 5 digest size UK ones. Then there are the Dreamwave comics from about 5 years ago, and the current IDW comics all of which are again available as graphic novels (except the current comics storylines, obviously).

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Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:52am | IP Logged Quote Chemical
dannyannimus wrote:
they are quite separate. they share the same idea, and the same characteristics, but diverge rapidly. Also there are the Marvel UK, and US storylines, which again diverge. Everything is available to collect anyway. The DVDs of all 4 seasons, plus the movie, and the comics are available as 12 (14 including G2) US graphic novels and about 10 large graphic novels and 5 digest size UK ones. Then there are the Dreamwave comics from about 5 years ago, and the current IDW comics all of which are again available as graphic novels (except the current comics storylines, obviously).


thanks for responding, and great! I was hoping the comics/cartoons would not be too similar, I think for now i'll stick to getting just the US ones, I'd be a little overwhelmed trying to get all those Marvel UK comics.. This should be good, all I've seen so far is the RID series.


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Posted: 01 October 2008 at 9:03am | IP Logged Quote Skyquake87
The Titan reprints of the US series should still be readily available. Be warned though, some volumes are harder to come by than others as they have not gone to a second printing since their initial run from 2001 - 2006. There are 16 volumes in total but they were published out of chronological order as neitheir Simon Furman (project editor) nor Titan expected the sales to be as strong as they were.

If you got to Amazon, there is a helpful list that gives you the run down.

The Marvel UK reprints by Titan are becoming scarcer by the day, Time Wars  in particular is  now a rarity. Happily, IDW are reprinting a lot of the UK material so you should be able to find  this in one form or another. The digest size B&W Marvel UK reprints  are still easy to find.

Personally, I'd recommend the Marvel UK stuff after you get the first four volumes of the US series (Beginnings, New Order, Cybertron Redux & Breakdown). By the time the US series hits #24 (titan volume Breakdown), it goes into a sharp decline and doesn't really recover until Furman takes over with #56 (Titan volume Primal Scream followed by Matrix Quest, All Fall Down and End Of The Road).

The Marvel UK stuff I'd recommend is Target 2006, Dark Angel, Legacy Of Unicron, Space Pirates and Time Wars. These five volumes comprise the peak of the Marvel UK comic and includes lots of Galvatron craziness spinning out of Transformers: The Movie. Its all cracking stuff, features the origin of The Transfomers (which contradicts the origin put forth in the cartoon) and features artwork and colouring that puts the US comic in the shade, quite frankly. This was arguably when writer Simon Furman really hit his stride on Transformers, and his enthusiasm and creativity really shone through on this series. He carried this more imaginative approach to the US series, weaving in an epic story arc that culminated in the excellent issue 75 (On The Edge Of Extinction!). I'm trying not to give anything away for you, but this is what I'd recommend.

Bob Budiansky, who wrote the majority of the US series aimed for a slightly lighter touch in the vein of the cartoon series. He mixed in more interactions with humanity, occasionally to the detriment of the comic as the Transformers themselves tend to take a back seat. However, his writing is on the whole, a lot of fun. His first twelve or so issues are superb. Its just a shame he was working with such a lot of red tape - he had to work into his stories the release of just about every new toy. By the time the Pretenders rolled around, you could tell this was becoming more and more problematic.

The Black & white Marvel UK issues work in a similar vein to Budiansky's stories. Short, sharp bursts of character development. There are five digest size volumes available. Best of Which are Aspects Of Evil, Earthforce and Way Of The Warrior.

The shortlived Generation 2 comic from 1993-1994 is also collected as Dark Designs and Rage In Heaven). This series does tie into the previous comic continuity, but adds a new dimension to both the Autobot/Decepticon struggle and their origins. Its a much more darker tale, and akin to a sort of TF version of Vietnam - nothing seems terribly hopeful in this series. The series had some sharp design work courtesy of Richard Starkings and Comicraft, and Derek Yaniger turns in some stunning visuals. Titan did not advertise these volumes as Generation 2, and they follow on from All Fall Down/End of The Road.


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Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:45pm | IP Logged Quote Grimbo

Marvel US (chronological order):

  1. Beginnings
  2. New Order
  3. Cybertron Redux
  4. Showdown
  5. Breakdown
  6. Treason
  7. Trial By Fire
  8. Maximum Force
  9. Dark Star
  10. Last Stand
  11. Primal Scream
  12. Matrix Quest
  13. All Fall Down
  14. End of the Road
  15. Dark Designs (Generation 2)
  16. Rage in Heaven (Generation 2)

Marvel UK, Galvatron Saga:

  1. Time Wars
  2. Fallen Angel
  3. Legacy of Unicron
  4. Space Pirates
  5. Time Wars

Marvel UK, other colour volumes:

  1. City of Fear
  2. Dinobot Hunt
  3. Prey
  4. Second Generation

Marvel UK, black-and-white volumes:

  1. Aspects of Evil
  2. Way of the Warrior
  3. Fallen Star
  4. Earthforce
  5. Perchance to Dream

If you just want to dip in, City of Fear is a great stand-alone volume.



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