Posted: 05 June 2008 at 1:44pm | IP Logged

Ok, help is needed. Can someone list the original crew of the Ark and the Nemesis please, everywhere i look it contradicts the other source.

Thanks guys!

( oh, and if thre i  st ith a ist of the 1984 Bot and Cos, that wouldb usefulll too. )

Posted: 05 June 2008 at 4:09pm | IP Logged

Someone been moving your keys around puddy cat? Jesus...

Posted: 05 June 2008 at 4:30pm | IP Logged

i dont understand what you mean by the ark and memesis?

heres a list of the bots and cons though from the 1st series if that helps

bots

brawn, bumblebee, huffer, cliffjumper, windcharger, gears, wheeljack, trailbreaker, ironhide, ratchet, hound, mirage, sunstreaker, jazz, prowl, sideswipe, bluestreak, optimus prime

cons

rumble, ravage, laser beak, frenzy, soundwave, starscream, skywarp, thundercracker, megatron, poss buzzsaw aswell

Posted: 05 June 2008 at 4:33pm | IP Logged

    * Bluestreak

    * Brawn

    * Bumblebee

    * Cliffjumper

    * Gears

    * Hound

    * Huffer

    * Ironhide

    * Jazz

    * Mirage

    * Optimus Prime

    * Prowl

    * Ratchet

    * Sideswipe

    * Sunstreaker

    * Trailbreaker

    * Wheeljack

and Wind changer I think!

Posted: 05 June 2008 at 4:51pm | IP Logged

Rofl, i hadnt even noticed that!

Posted: 05 June 2008 at 6:50pm | IP Logged

well obviously i know the ark was the autobot ship, who doesnt, but i didnt know the decepticons was called nemesis if i got that rite

never really looked into it to be honest as i couldnt see a point in doing so lol

Posted: 05 June 2008 at 7:31pm | IP Logged

I hate seeing that list.  It just reminds me of all the hard to find figures I want to get! lol!

Nemisis is indeed the name of the Decepticon ship.

Posted: 05 June 2008 at 8:00pm | IP Logged

oh my god.. I found for you guys, check out:

Transformers: Generation One

[edit] Crew of the Ark

Which Autobots were on board the Ark varies with different tellings of the story. In all storylines the following Autobots are among the crew:

• Bluestreak
• Brawn
• Bumblebee
• Cliffjumper
• Gears
• Hound
• Huffer
• Ironhide
• Jazz
• Mirage
• Optimus Prime - Leader
• Prowl
• Ratchet
• Sideswipe
• Sunstreaker
• Trailbreaker
• Wheeljack
• Windcharger

In the television series the Ark was crewed by:

• Hauler (Only appeared in one early episode)

In the Marvel Comics series the Ark was crewed by:

• Grimlock
• Slag
• Sludge
• Snarl
• Swoop

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_(Transformers)#Crew_of_the_ Ark

and Decepticon

fews like

• megatron
• starscream
• soundwave
• skywarp
• thundercracker
• reflectors

that is what I seen in starship..

Posted: 07 June 2008 at 3:47am | IP Logged

Just out of interest, what is the 'other source'?

Posted: 10 June 2008 at 11:50am | IP Logged

For the Ark, it's simply the full compliment of 1984 Autobot toys. In the cartoon, an aborted character named "Hauler" was also on the Ark, but he only appeared in the first episode and never again. In the Marvel Comics, the Dinobots were also on the Ark.

The cartoon crew of the Nemesis consisted of Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Reflector, Ravage, Rumble and Laserbeak. In the comics, Reflector was not present, and Frenzy and Buzzsaw were.

Posted: 10 June 2008 at 12:58pm | IP Logged

Was Frenzy not in the cartoon then?

And did we ever see Buzzaw in the cartoon, I don't remember ever seeing him.

Posted: 10 June 2008 at 1:17pm | IP Logged

yeah buzzsaw was in the cartoon as i remember laserbeak and buzzsaw flying together

all the cassettes were in the cartoon bar the dino and combiner ones

Posted: 10 June 2008 at 2:38pm | IP Logged

Yeah, both of them were in the cartoon, but Frenzy didn't appear until "Countdown to Extinction," and Buzzsaw didn't show up until Season 2. It wasn't explained where either of them came from, of course, so this doesn't mean that they WEREN'T on the Nemesis, but y'know.

Personally, I like to think that Frenzy was on Cybertron, and joined up with the Decepticons on Earth when Cybertron was pulled into orbit in "The Ultimate Doom."

Posted: 10 June 2008 at 3:13pm | IP Logged

Ahh, makes sense, I knew I'd seen Frenzy in the '86 movie, but couldn't actually remember seeing him anywhere before, and couldn't - and still can't - remember ever seeing Buzzsaw.

which, when you think about it, is odd, given that he was sold with Soundwave rather than Lazerbeak.